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Author Topic: "Unmovable" does not show up in Analysis Only mode.  (Read 3480 times)
rbscholtus
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« on: February 08, 2008, 10:50:56 am »

Hoi,
I use JkDefrag 3.34 with JkDefragGUI 1.01. This works wonderfully, thanks.

I think there is a small problem with the Analysis Only mode. Unmovable files (e.g. the pagefile and hiberfil) do not show up in red (but standard green.) I do have a particular interest in those files though. Seeing where those files are helps to assess whether system files show be deleted and recreated at clean new positions on disk.

Any way to fix this?

FYI: Green, yellow & pink correctly show up. I use Vista.


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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2008, 11:07:35 am »

I think there is a small problem with the Analysis Only mode. Unmovable files (e.g. the pagefile and hiberfil) do not show up in red (but standard green.) I do have a particular interest in those files though. Seeing where those files are helps to assess whether system files show be deleted and recreated at clean new positions on disk.
Any way to fix this?

Files are only unmovable when JKdefrag actually tries to move them, and fails. This is documented somewhere, e.g. in a number of threads. Very popular subject - such a pita.

But your problems are much smaller than that. Sysinternals Diskview will show you the exact location of any file, not only the locked files.

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2008, 12:43:30 pm »

I see! I'm sorry, I didn't realise JkDefrag doesn't know the movable status until after trying to move each file. I thought that was a simple matter of a bunch of file attributes like HS (hidden, system.)

Sorry for not searching in the forum better.
I have read the Docs included with JkDefrag several times, but this is not mentioned. Maybe it would be a good addition: "After Analysis, it is still unknown which files are unmovable. Therefore, the map does not show any red regions. The movable status of files is, apart from some obvious exceptions, unknown until JkDefrag has tried to move each of them individually."

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DiskView "Could not open volume"
Talking about PITA. (using Vista)
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2008, 01:02:40 pm »

Hello rbscholtus,

Sorry, Diskview apparently doesn't run on Vista. This would be very strange. Sysinternals makes a lot of efforts to support all recent versions of Windows. On XP, you must have admin rights. If this doesn't work, you should check the (excellent) Sysinternals forums.

Maybe another good reason not to use Vista (yet)?

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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 01:24:44 pm »

Hi

Maybe another good reason not to use Vista (yet)?
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 01:44:32 pm »

Sorry, Diskview apparently doesn't run on Vista. This would be very strange. Sysinternals makes a lot of efforts to support all recent versions of Windows. On XP, you must have admin rights. If this doesn't work, you should check the (excellent) Sysinternals forums.
No prob, the Q was answered, it is my mistake.

Actually the Diskview download page does not mention Vista as supported, so that's just the way it is.
OFFtopic but I don't think 1 out-of-date utility should keep people from using Vista Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2008, 09:54:10 pm »

I thought that was a simple matter of a bunch of file attributes like HS (hidden, system.)
I wish! There is a read-only flag, but the Windows defragmentation API does not care about that at all. It will happily move read-only files, because moving a file on disk does not change the file. The only way I know of finding out if a file can be defragmented or can be moved, is by actually asking the API to do it.

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I have read the Docs included with JkDefrag several times, but this is not mentioned. Maybe it would be a good addition:
Thanks for your suggestion, I appreciate it! I will see what I can do.
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