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jc836
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« on: February 06, 2008, 01:52:12 pm »

JKDefreg 3.34 and prior versions have been showing this area on all of my drives.  I do understand that there is a certain amount of "Swapfile" space allocated as a part of Windows XP SP-2 (fully patched, btw).  I ran Ashampoo's WinOptimizer Drive check utility and find that it says I am allocating 1.5Gig's for this space-which is correct (I have 1 Gig RAM). I am running 3.34 in the Automatic mode.
The question is why Defrag is showing something that looks like 30% of my drive? Should I be defragging under Safe Mode?
I have abandoned Windows and other brands of defraggers for JKDefrag and am happy to report that it is the best of the lot as far as I'm concerned.  Keep up the good work Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 03:29:15 pm »

 Grin Grin Grin

http://www.kessels.com/forum/index.php?topic=934.0

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jc836
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 05:46:14 pm »

Eric-Thank you for the link.  However, it did not fully help me.  I know that there needs to be "slack file space, etc.  It is my understanding that ALL Windows XP SP-2 machines have an allocated "Pagefile equal to 1.5 times the amount of actual RAM installed.  In my case that is shown by other programs.  JKDefrag is not showing it as I would expect according to the Graphic table that Jeroen provided on the homepage.  I do agree that additional colors would be helpful to differentiate what is set aside and where.
Maybe Jeroen would like to comment further.
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 07:59:15 pm »

Hi jc836
You confuse MFT reserved zone and pagefile. It's not the same thing.
JkDefrag does not distinguish pagefile because there's no need. This file can be defraged with certain conditions.
The default MFT reserved zone is, in most case, 12.5% of the total amount of the hard drive.

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 11:16:55 pm »

Laurent:
That explains what I am seeing then.  Seems a huge waste of space on the one hand tho <G>.
Thanks
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 09:05:14 am »

Hi jc836,

the space of the MFT reserved zone is not wasted. The OS tries to avoid putting files there, but if the disk fills up, the reserved area will be used too. See the following article for details: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/174619/EN-US/

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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 11:30:40 am »

@gerdb

Yes the "MFT reserved zone" is wasted in 99,999% of cases because it is too big; you should not confuse it with the actual MFT which is indeed used.  The "MFT reserved zone" is a free area usually located just after the MFT in order to allow the MFT to extend without fragmentation... fair enough  but Windows when allocating 12,5% of the partition to the "MFT reserved zone"  is allocating too much to it; disk size have quite increased  over the past years and when I see in Jkdefrag.log  the size of my MFT file on different PCs  it never exceeds 100 Mb  and I doubt that many people have more than 500 Mb for their MFT file...
The "MFT reserved zone"  is the one shown in pink color by Jkdefrag,  the MFT file appears as any other normal file and will appear in red (umovable) when running JkDfrag with a sorting option or with -a3.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 03:09:36 am »

This is a great way to start on a forum. Anyways I agree with Eric2 that the MFT Zone is a waste of space. Example for you in this screen shot. Look at what I am using as MFT in the MFT Zone. That is a big wast of space. Also look at all the free space that can be used as a temp for the MFT to grow as it needs too.
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By the way Jeroen Kessels you have a great program. I use it 3 times a day.
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