after analisys..

[Kasuha]

Why did you need to copy and rename cmd.exe? Didn't it work by just adding cmd.exe first in the batch files shortcuts target field.

I didn't want it to collide with the system-wide cmd.exe but it works too. I had to copy it, though, W7 does not let me to set up shortcut to cmd.exe in the system32 directory to execute with administrative rights.

[jonib]

I didn't want it to collide with the system-wide cmd.exe but it works too. I had to copy it, though, W7 does not let me to set up shortcut to cmd.exe in the system32 directory to execute with administrative rights.

Weird and interesting, I'll have to test when I boot to my Win7 partition.

jonib

[BloodySword]

They are in a single bat file and I am running as user with administrator rights and UAC pops up every time MyDefrag process is started. And for safety reasons I refuse to turn UAC off and there is no option in UAC to give a program an exception (I blame Microsoft for that).
But I'll take a better look at it, maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Search for the "elevate" tool with google. It brings you higher rights in any cmd environment.

The UAC is no safety against malware and co, it only prevents users to make misstakes in configuration for example when the user deletes the page file in the configuration by sheer curiosity. So every advanced user can safely disable the UAC.

[Kasuha]

The UAC is no safety against malware and co

I disagree. UAC provides no safety for a stupid user who clicks on Yes whenever he sees a Yes/No dialog. For me it's valuable information that a program I just started is going to do something that I perhaps don't want to allow it to do to my system.

[Darlis]

The UAC is no safety against malware and co.

I have to disagree, too. For exmple, look here:

Faulhaber (Microsoft software design engineer) stresses that UAC isn't specifically intended for protection against malware, but used and configured properly it can make the jobs of malware authors more difficult. "In addition to always updating your software and running up to date antivirus, the best thing to do is to leave UAC enabled," writes Faulhaber. "UAC is not intended as malware protection, but it's another layer of security to help improve the safety of Windows."

[BloodySword]

The UAC is no safety against malware and co.

I have to disagree, too. For exmple, look here:

Faulhaber (Microsoft software design engineer) stresses that UAC isn't specifically intended for protection against malware, but used and configured properly it can make the jobs of malware authors more difficult. "In addition to always updating your software and running up to date antivirus, the best thing to do is to leave UAC enabled," writes Faulhaber. "UAC is not intended as malware protection, but it's another layer of security to help improve the safety of Windows."

I even did not use any virus canner back in the beginning of 2000's with Windows NT 5.0 (Win 2000 Prof.) and I didn't have any virus.
Today I'm using avast and disabled the UAC. I never had any problems with malware. It is a question of the user in front of the computer.

[Kasuha]

I even did not use any virus canner back in the beginning of 2000's with Windows NT 5.0 (Win 2000 Prof.) and I didn't have any virus.
Today I'm using avast and disabled the UAC. I never had any problems with malware. It is a question of the user in front of the computer.

You can walk a tightrope and if you don't fall down you can say you didn't need the safery net below you. If you're good, you may stop using it because you believe you'll never fall. But saying that nobody should use the safety net and everybody is supposed to never fall is ... stupid.

[BloodySword]

I even did not use any virus canner back in the beginning of 2000's with Windows NT 5.0 (Win 2000 Prof.) and I didn't have any virus.
Today I'm using avast and disabled the UAC. I never had any problems with malware. It is a question of the user in front of the computer.

You can walk a tightrope and if you don't fall down you can say you didn't need the safery net below you. If you're good, you may stop using it because you believe you'll never fall. But saying that nobody should use the safety net and everybody is supposed to never fall is ... stupid.

But I said that this is a question of the user in front of Windows.
I did not say that everyone should disable it.