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defragmo
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« on: January 20, 2008, 06:31:56 pm »

I am a little confused because JkDefrag displays all data at the end of my partitions while the Windows defragger shows the opposite.

Is this a bug?



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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2008, 07:36:33 pm »

not really a bug but it's by design. jeroen used to mention in his post the reason he did that but i could not remember.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 10:41:14 am »

I am a little confused because JkDefrag displays all data at the end of my partitions while the Windows defragger shows the opposite.
JkDefrag shows the begin of the partition at the bottom-left of the diskmap, and the end at the top-right. Most other defraggers show the begin at the top-left, because that's where the display begins (xy is zero at the top-left of the display). Disk optimization moves all data to the beginning of the disk, and that results in data "floating" above empty space. Bits and bytes don't care about gravity, ofcourse, but it bothered me somehow, instinctively. I tried it the other way around, I liked it better, and kept it that way.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 02:55:46 pm »

I fully agree with Jeroen.
It is only a question of being used to it. Now that I have been using JKDefrag for a while I really like the current display (beginning of the disk at the bottom  and  end of the disk at the top).
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 10:01:07 pm »

I think its also a question of actually knowing that the display is reversed. Maybe you could mention that somewhere in the documentation.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 05:02:10 am »

I think its also a question of actually knowing that the display is reversed. Maybe you could mention that somewhere in the documentation.
I respectfully disagree that the JkDefrag display is reversed. I am using a different layout than most other defragmenters, that's all. Are cars in England driving on the wrong side of the road? Not from their point of view. In the JkDefrag documentation you will find a snapshot of the JkDefrag window, and just above it the text "Bottom-left of the window is the beginning of the harddisk." Perhaps I could add a bit of text there, but personally I think it's enough explanation.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 04:38:48 am »

I just invested about 30 minutes on this (with all due respect) - ridiculous design decision.

I downloaded MyDefrag today for the first time and let it run for hours on the recommended Optimize Monthly (of course I read all FAQ and Known Problems etc. documentation to familiarize myself with the software before I risk my data with it.)

I was just finishing capturing, cropping, naming and uploading my Before and After screenshots to ask why did MyDefrag move all my data to the END of the disk instead of the beginning???

So I searched and searched and on my 3rd search I found this thread which explains that MyDefrag - unlike EVERY other defragmenter ever written, decides to arbitrarily display the data in reverse fashion.  Yet there is no indication to a new user that this is the case.

Application User Interface standards are very important because they convey what behavior the user can expect when he operates the program, based on what he knows from previous experience with past programs that adhered to Well-Known User Interface Standards, like the Windows Guidelines published my Microsoft.

To just arbitrarily decide to display the data in reverse reeks of amateurish programming and frankly makes me wonder what other "arbitrary decisions" were made in the coding of this program due to some whim of the author at the time?

I respect that this is your code and you are free to do what ever you want with it, but I most definitely disagree with this decision and I am firmly convince it is a wrong decision.

At least consider defaulting the option to normal (Beginning of disk at Top) and give an option for those to reverse it.

Or else deal with people like me who download your program and wonder why this lame defragmenter just put all my data at the end of the disk?  Not a good first impression.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 01:36:18 pm »

At least consider defaulting the option to normal (Beginning of disk at Top) and give an option for those to reverse it.
There is an option to change the map orientation DiskmapFlip.

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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 02:13:26 pm »

Thank you for this solution (and seeing past my complaint).
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