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« on: March 08, 2007, 03:18:41 pm »

Would this one be possible:
"Analyze, force together TO THE BEGINNING OF PARTITION AND defragment" instead of
"Analyze and force together, do not defragment"
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2007, 07:24:18 pm »

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it! But what you are describing is the "-a 4" option, analyze, defragment, and full optimization. See the "Why is my disk not perfectly optimized?" item in the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for some reasons why this method will sometimes leave gaps.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 04:57:22 pm »

Ok. But could you recommend me a program which can move every byte on the disk to the beginning/end of a partition? My pagefile is fragged, so i should defrag it by PageDefrag. But before i can defrag it, i need 1,5 Gb free space completely together. I tried this using JkDefrag but it left small pieces of data around the disk, so defragging pagefile is not possible due to there isn't a large enough place to put it. I hope you understood my text :)
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 06:16:59 pm »

You can try one of the commercial defraggers... You can also try to make your pagefile small, for example 100Mb, reboot, run JkDefrag, make the swapfile big again, and reboot once more. That should produce a pagefile with only 1 fragment, or at least very few fragments.

By the way, a fragmented pagefile indicates that the computer does not have enough memory (the pagefile is only used when the memory is full). Defragging the swapfile can give you a little bit more speed, but only a few percent at best. You should consider buying more memory, it's cheap and can (not "will") increase your speed dramatically.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 07:25:51 pm »

"You can try one of the commercial defraggers..."
Could you say an example?


"You can also try to make your pagefile small, for example 100Mb, reboot, run JkDefrag, make the swapfile big again, and reboot once more. That should produce a pagefile with only 1 fragment, or at least very few fragments."
I tried that but it didn't seem to work. But if a bit fragged pagefile doesn't take much effect to the speed of the computer, it doesn't matter.


"the pagefile is only used when the memory is full"
My Win XP uses now 387 mb pagefile though there is 460 mb free ram and 309 mb used ram. Ubuntu linux does this much better, it uses the swap ONLY if the ram is full.


"You should consider buying more memory, it's cheap and can (not "will") increase your speed dramatically."
My computer uses expensive rambus ram and all memory slots are full :)   I should buy a new computer.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 10:29:08 pm »

Quote from: "xyz"
Could you say an example?

No, sorry, I don't have a list of all the defraggers in the world and their capabilities.

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My Win XP uses now 387 mb pagefile though there is 460 mb free ram and 309 mb used ram. Ubuntu linux does this much better, it uses the swap ONLY if the ram is full.

Are you sure you are looking at the correct numbers for the pagefile? The numbers in the task manager are not about the pagefile. You can only see the pagefile usage in the Performance counters.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 01:24:28 am »

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Ok. But could you recommend me a program which can move every byte on the disk to the beginning/end of a partition? My pagefile is fragged, so i should defrag it by PageDefrag. But before i can defrag it, i need 1,5 Gb free space completely together. I tried this using JkDefrag but it left small pieces of data around the disk, so defragging pagefile is not possible due to there isn't a large enough place to put it. I hope you understood my text Smiley

To defrag the pagefile try just turning the pagefile off, restarting then defragging and turning pagefile back on.
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